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Oct 27, 2025
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Join ABC News chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl (Tired of Winning) for a conversation with George Stephanopoulos about the remaking of American politics under Donald Trump following the 2024 election — and Karl’s new book, Retribution: Donald Trump and the Campaign That Changed America.
During his 2024 campaign, behind closed doors, Donald Trump was in the fight of his political life — and hatching a plan to remake America in his image. Given unparalleled access, Jonathan Karl witnessed his rise back to power up close. In his new bookRetribution, he shares the story of what happened as a new team coalesced around President Trump — a team of loyalists vowing to create a new world order.
In a conversation covering President Biden’s shocking withdrawal from the race, Vice President Harris’s historic run, the multiple assassination attempts on President Trump and the changes he has brought to every corner of the country, hear Karl reveal the shocking details of how we got here — and what Trump has in store for America in the years to come.
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